Vine caught Blake and threw her to Elm. : Watching the battle between Team RWBY and the Ace-Ops in volume 7 got me thinking about how that battle will go in my story, but I want your opinions on the matter. 5 CommonSnorkack Likes Spiders. Vine has also only grabbed it his semblance. Vine's fall briefly distracts Marrow and he narrowly dodges the Arma Gigas' sword and a wall of icicles created by Weiss before freezing her in place with his Semblance. Which is why he did not use his semblance at the very beginning. Details + Care Unisex fit 100% Cotton Machine wash cold/tumble dry low This super soft tee will be your new go to favorite, featuring the Ace Ops team. Elm and Harriet felt betrayed so they were angry upset all the synonyms. The difference I've noticed between Elm and Harriet is that during the fight, Elm seemed to have some awareness that she's being the bad guy in this scenario but tries to convince herself that she isn't by psyching herself up. When she finally does claim victory over Maul, it is due to a combination of intelligent use of their environment and her allies' support. Now to debunk some of y’all. Animating Blake ripping all the bombs off the rock isn't necessary and would ruin the momentum of the scene, Marrow does use his semblance twice, once to stop the arma gigus and once to stop weiss, but they were two different targets in different spots, marrow couldn't use his semblance effectively. She has silver vambraces over her forearms She has a red belt around her white pants and goes barefoot save for some martial arts footwraps alongside dark blue calf plates that cover the tops of her feet, the plates have three red strap… Feat. Why would she be angry over an acquaintance accusing her of something she's already admitted? She manages to get back on her feet as the two prepare to keep fighting only to lose consciousness and fall back down. •This is Human Tao. But in all seriousness, it's not that vital of a question. Definitely one of the show's best! All of them has different views. Ruby and Yang also have the added distress from Salem talking about Summer. Now Ruby. Again you don’t need to know enough about a person in order to aggravate them. Team RWBY have the advantage of having to deal with similar circumstances due to Beacon and a couple of other do or die scenarios. I have fewer complaints about this fight for exactly those reasons you stated. argentarachnids:. So this fight was won off of pure strategy like every other fight. He was trying to get her to stand down, even while the fight was going on. Yes, Marrow didn't want a fight. He uses his semblance to grab them and throw rocks, but never does he use the actual weapon on his back. When I look at most of the RWBY fights I have the thought "I guess they fought." Attacking him from both directions to force in to use his semblance. Super speed and a paralysis semblance. So finally yang and Blake adapted and took them out one by one. Plus the arma gigas is not a pushover summon there would be some struggle to take it down. Also, we've seen that he's able to move his head and body slightly. Harriet is quick but she can’t handcuff and stop the arma gigas that quick before Ruby pushes marrow. As the fighters take their stances, a reluctant Marrow asks if they're genuinely going to fight, to which Harriet responds that they'll do so if Team RWBY makes a move. Why is this fight the only one where Vine grabs someone and pulls them towards him? Vine:(after Elm telling him to show no mercy): "Are you telling me or yourself?". The culprits were Team RWBY, Jaune Arc, Nora Valkyrie, Lie Ren, Qrow Branwen and Oscar Pine, who defended the city from a pack of Sabyrs. Meanwhile, Yang hurls Blake at Elm, distracting her enough to weaken the ground with blasts, rendering Elm's Semblance useless, which she realizes as Yang propels herself at her. rwby v7ep12 fight outcomes. Feb 5, 2020 #3,030 I think Marrow's Stay only stops movement, so people can still think while affected. I’m having fun making analysis and you all responding makes me feel important lol. Yang shoots upwards, steals a pair of bolas that she uses on Vine and then slams him on the ground, shattering his Aura, leaving Elm in complete shock. Ruby shouldn't know that about Harriet for such a short time. Individually, the Ace-Ops are LEAGUES better than Team RWBY. Tao obviously won’t come quietly. Like, with 0% opportunity for a reaction or for something to fail... Guys? Hopefully, they will be able to improve in future battles. I have less of a problem with the outcome of the fight then I do with how they look completely fine after the fight which is a problem that comes up a lot in RWBY in general. Marrow could not have done anything. Marrow has to be sure that no one will interfere with him in order for him to use. RWBY Volume 7 had many excellent fights and one of the more important ones was Team RWBY vs the Ace Ops. I'm guessing this is on a few people's minds - Ruby's performance was somewhat lackluster and the use of speed was not very imaginative. They weren’t acting as one. nyoompetals: only about as confusing as rwby vs ruby. That not a smart time to use it. Penny's team charges at the Ace-Ops with Penny's swords being dodged by Marrow and Vine. They are much older, much more experienced, and have better training. This was the best fight between the group. Once the smoke clears Weiss stands with the full-sized Arma Gigas behind her, declaring her intent to defend her home. At the party everyone was running towards the stage he had time to react. This was the best fight between the group. What really annoys me however, is how after the fight RWBY looks...fine. RWBY does a lot of things right with its fights, and Team RWBY vs. Participants Now to debunk some of y’all. But thats not what happened. Ruby will push marrow to allow them to move. We are going to start with Weiss. It would have been plot armor and bad writing if Ruby won against Harriet. Anyway, time for the group's first mission in Atlas with the Ace Ops. Ruby tries to convince Harriet they are doing what Salem wants to happen only to be ignored. Injuries Once he exits, Harriet locks down the office. Why would she be angry over an acquaitance accusing her of something she's already admitted? Because it's not an accusation, it's mockery. It would've definitely been useful on the dust petra gigas or to refreeze the mob, but he doesn't, indicating that using it twice is pushing the limit, as Weiss only lands a single hit during the fight yet it's enough to break his aura. While they were bickering that could have been a perfect moment for Ruby to move marrow only if marrow stop Weiss before time but since he didn’t it was the perfect time for Ruby to escape that room. He showed no signs of exhaustion then. A brief dialogue ensues before Yang makes a comment that enrages Elm, who shoves Blake against a wall before charging back at her while Vine pushes himself to a ledge with his Semblance, ready to strike from above. Well said! Let start with a quick mindset of the characters. DISCUSSION spoiler. Maul is shown and stated to not be at his best due to the immense stress he's been under since receiving visions of the coming rise of the Empire, but Ahsoka is still shown throughout to be struggling to keep up. Not plot armor not because he was stupid because he was conflicted. If someone is prideful that they are built in trust once it’s broken it’s not as easy as let me calm down. Harriet won that fight and it was perfect. Furthermore, that Elm is aggravated by Yang saying that she only follows orders is dumb. Ruby and Weiss decide to find the Winter Maiden to stop Ironwood from getting the Relic of Creation, while Blake and Yang go look for Team JNPR. What would you like to see? The whole point is that. I feel that was one of the best fights in V7. Previous Luring Harriet into a speed battle was tactically sound. However, he is forced to use it on the still active Arma Gigas, allowing Weiss to finish him off with a fire blast. But I concur that the lack of signs of effort does harm the battle. LuckyCharm: in his defense, he’s extremely smart and has the same sense of humor as a certain very attractive huntsman Harriet also felt betrayed but was more violent because it was “necessary.” No matter how skilled your group is if your not on one page you are sure to fall. Ace Ops puts most of them on display. Discover (and save!) They belong to Roosterteeth. She was the one to say it in the first place, in episode 4. The airships fly in a group of four towards the mission destination, with each team and at least one member of the Ace Ops inside them. When Weiss was time stopped her summon kept going full speed without hesitating. Ruby Rose begins to question how they can defeat the creature without causing the dust attached to its body to explode, however before she can finish, the Ace-Ops spring into action battling the Grimm, while Teams RWBY and JNR watch the action unfold in awe. Weiss quickly attack him putting him on unstable ground. The Ace-Ops have completed their years at Atlas academy, worked as huntsmen for some years after that and then were chosen to be Ironwood's military special operatives and have worked for some time as that too. Since not only has this fight basically made the whole fandom believe the Ops are jobbers but it seems like RT may plan on killing them which is worse than making them look like jackasses. And then he says 'whoa, whoa, we're not actually gonna fight this out, are we'? Unnamed Team, Emerald and Mercury vs. Coco and Yatsuhashi, Penny and Maria vs. Cinder, Emerald and Neo, https://rwby.fandom.com/wiki/Team_RWBY_vs._Ace-Ops?oldid=1149770. Harriet did have a better performance Ruby couldn’t touch her. I'm trying to arrest her, not kill her, Hare. Ruby RoseWeiss SchneeBlake BelladonnaYang Xiao Long Ace-Ops are defeated and tied up.Team RWBY escapes arrest Qrow and Robyn vs. Clover Yang drives Elm down the stairs with a barrage of punches, who tries to block her with her weapon, eventually landing a punch to the face that knocks Elm away, but she uses her Semblance to recover her stance. In response to this, Ironwood orders the Ace Ops to arrest the team, then makes his leave for the Atlas Vault. Marrow did not use his semblance because he has to be wise with such a move because it drains him so much you can’t use a skill like that on impulse. Most of the Marrow stuff can be explained by the fact that Marrow believes the fight can be resolved fairly peacefully. They weren’t strategic. Harriet even berates him for holding back. Just look at the group shot of them in the previous episode - everyone else has a face of stern determination, while his is more worried. No matter how elite or skilled you are once trust is broken no one is level headed. Blindsided by Salem getting the upper hand and angry that RWBY lied to him about Salem being unable to be killed, Ironwood … RWBY already charged out the room. He calls Team RWBY and the Ace Ops back to his office to protect Atlas when a Seer Grimm from Watt's bag jumps out and casts a mirage of Salem, who taunts both Ironwood and Ruby herself, saying her henchmen were never meant to win, but rather to set the stage for her arrival. However one thing I want to add is that you forgotten how the Ace Ops got worn out in Mantle beforehand especially when compared to Team RWBY and JNR who were doing a far better job of pacing themselves. I mean, Ruby just leaves Weiss there. The other two meanwhile, run a lot colder. All Ace-Ops members are knocked unconscious. I cut this so short because I don’t want to bore y’all with a 20 page speech sooooo. Vine swats the rock aside and captures Blake, only for it to turn out to be a bomb loaded Shadow that explodes right in front of him, launching him up into the ceiling. Yang runs in a circle, dropping bombs to attempt to slow down Elm. All Ace-Ops members are knocked unconscious There's individual things one can complain about, and people expected more from the "best huntsmen in Atlas", but between their relative exhaustion and lack of teamwork compared to RWBY, their loss made sense, especially Marrow's. Your point about him not being able to use it on impulse is also incorrect because he's done that before, like the first time it was shown against the sentinels and at the aforementioned election party. As she runs out, Elm clashes with Yang, while Marrow and Blake lock weapons and Weiss attacks Vine. She was the one to say it in the first place, in episode 4. For the first 3 volumes I could understand it because of budget restraints, time, and how new they were too it all but now that can't be used as an excuse anymore. I don't own anything but plot! During the fight marrow can’t use it because who is going stop fighting to handcuff Weiss no one. Ace-Ops then caught them by surprise and seized their weapons before leaving … So just before the fight Ruby knew what to say to get under Harriet skin to have her separate from the rest of team. Marrow could have defected because his views on teamwork are more compatible with RWBY's. LuckyCharm: oshit. For me that honestly takes away so much from the fight that in my opinion its the worst fight in the volume. If you put Jeff Bezos, Elon Musk, Bill Gates, Mark Zuckerberg all in the same room to make a company if they all not on the same page even though they are very successful and smart individuals if they are not working together and not on the same page their company will fail. Elm and vine could have won and detained them but like her sister yang know how to get under people’s skin. Badass Crew: When Team RWBY hesitates to fight a Petra Gigas that has merged with volatile Dust, the Ace Ops immediately demonstrate how capable they are in terms of skill and teamwork. "With Friends Like These" Weiss quickly attack him putting him on unstable ground. It's basically a magic trick, the how isn't all that important in comparison to the fact that it happened. This is in response to Blake's attempt to reason with the Ace-ops, with Yang's line basically saying they don't need to think, only follow. So many better ways to have written it and had RWBY won, but instead Ace Ops goes full lawful stupid and does every wrong thing ever for no particular reason, oftentimes even breaking character to do so. Blake is very agile so I’m pretty sure elm will be able to catch yang with ease but of course. You don’t need to know a lot about a person to know how to get under their skin. Ruby lost against because she is a scythe wielder fighting a person with hand to hand combat and a person that was quicker than her. Back in the office, Weiss engages Marrow by ricocheting off Glyphs. If I'm forgetting any, please let me know. Harriet shouldn't be so easily manipulated since she's military special forces. First Marrow was conflicted with his emotions. Blake and Yang have built on their development in Volume 6 to become a well-oiled combat machine, with Yang using her evolving sense of strategy to taunt Elm into giving up her advantage when she has Blake dead to rights and her finishing move to render Roots useless. As Blake kicks off the ceiling and Yang blasts herself upwards, the two land finishing blows on Elm, who crashes on the floor, her aura depleted. A lot of emotions was in play. It was perfect and well captured. Or Teams RWBY and KEPL vs Ace-Ops? Attacking him from both directions to force in to use his semblance. Let start with a quick mindset of the characters. The Ace-Ops first appeared in "The Greatest Kingdom", when they were called in to Mantle due to reports of a stolen Manta airship entering its airspace and due to the unauthorized use of weapons by civilians. There are so many of these for every Ace Ops member failure. Something I noticed during the Team RWBY vs Ace ops fight is that Weiss's summons can operate independently of her. He was apprehensive at first but then when the fight actually broke out he charged forward to clash weapons with Weiss. Eddy handled the Ace Ops vs RWBY and Winter scenes while Kiersi handled the rest ; Kerry learned from V5 that having everyone in one room for a fight doesn’t work well ; Eddy is a big Weiss stan ; Clover has no idea who he’s up against with Tyrian, and thinks of Qrow … But in this small yet absolutely crucial detail, it seems they continue to fall short. It's entirely possible that he could still throw it himself. Headbutting Yang before striking her with Timber, Yang is sent flying while Elm pursues her partner. Ruby dodges several kicks before using her Semblance to gain some room from her. Him simple using it twice against Weiss took a lot out of him. Which is why he did not use his semblance at the very beginning.Which is why he did not use his semblance at the very beginning. Again, that's completely unreasonable. It's still a problem because Harriet should be so much more skilled and experienced (as all the Ace-Ops should be) that even if Harriet was slower she should've showed a better performance than she did. And here I was thinking this was some kind of innuendo. level 2. Cinder, Mercury, Emerald and Neo vs. Elm felt betrayed. Since I love the Ops I have a bone to pick with this fight scene. your own Pins on Pinterest I_Am_Winter: Did the bird just… LuckyCharm: yeah. We are going to start with Weiss. Team KEPL vs Ace-Ops while RWBY does something else? Harriet on the other hand is the opposite. Nov 9, 2019 - This Pin was discovered by Lauren McCarthy. In fact it's not unreasonable for Ruby to gather herself quickly, she's done so before. ... RWBY Ace Ops Silhouette T-Shirt. At 1:40; when the fights have already started, Harriet comes in, Weiss and her summon are lined up; Marrow could have basically ended the fight by gaining a +1 advantage + his broken semblance. Given their own experiences, Team RWBY initially assumes that the Ace-Ops are this until Ruby says she wants to have her friends' backs the way Ace-Ops has each others. In comparison RWBY only went to Beacon for around 7 months and since then have spent around a year in the field, with 6-8 fights each + trained with the Ace-Ops (and Yang with Tai). 6:20 Weiss was already in the middle of an attack and marrow is on ice. Marrow has kind of a tool for much of the season, and Vine was very distant, but when it came time to fight, they were more reserved. Knowledge: None Sure, Team RWBY were no slouches in that defense, but they didn't use their Semblances all that much in the battles or take that many hits to deplete their Auras. At 09:15 he could've used it and let Harriet use the handcuffs. Now to debunk some of y’all. 3:06—4:31: War, RWBY vs Ace Ops 4:31—7:08: I May Fall, Neptune, Coco, Velvet y Weiss Schnee vs Mechas Atlesianos 7:08— 8:20: One Thing, Neo Politan vs Cinder Fall Elm states friendships are for the school years and Harriet scoffs at the idea that Ace-Ops could be friends: Ace-Ops is a team of co-workers who trust each other with their lives but who never confuse professionalism with friendship. Enjoy. Harriet BreeMarrow AminVine ZekiElm Ederne smallerthanzer0:. As Marrow throws his weapon at her, Weiss blocks it and then covers a part of the floor with ice, followed by a fire wave to create a smokescreen and summons a hail of icicles that Marrow deflects it, while the former attempts to reason with her. I feel that was one of the best fights in V7. As she rushes at her, Elm attempts to use Timber's rocket launchers, only for Yang to realize and active her Semblance, punching the floor underneath her so hard it completely shatters and sends Elm upwards. I have some minor nitpicks with the Doylist framing of the battle, but the fight itself is expertly constructed. Can be done near instantly. Marrow could not have done anything. I don't think so. A training montage encapsulating at most a few weeks should not be enough to bridge that gap. So a little insult to that can anger a person a lot. Incorrect, he chad three opportunities to do so: at around 06:20 to freeze Weiss, at 06:43 to freeze both her and the Knight and at 09:15 when he could've used it on her, the Knight and Ruby with Harriet as backup. Deep down neither wanted to hurt team RWBY, and clearly didn't consider them bad people. For me, that's the most meaningful part of the fight and that's why I love it so much. A team that only answer to Ironwood. Teeth-Clenched Teamwork : Ironwood uses the threat of torture to force Watts to work with him against Penny, reinforcing his threat by surrounding him with armed soldiers who tirelessly point guns at him while he works. Yang goes after Vine, who throws rocks and debris at her. Yang knowing that how to irritate people for under Elm skin making her release Blake making her throw away their upper hand. After incapacitating the Ace-Ops, Team RWBY begins to group them outside of Ironwood's office, where they begin to formulate a plan. Ace-Ops were ordered to steal one of Penny's swords and get it back to Ironwood immediately so that Watts could use it as part of his attempts to remotely hack Penny. She holds her own, but she's also disarmed on multiple occasions and when she gets a few free moments after managing to throw Maul out a window, she falls to her knees panting for breath. After James Ironwood's declaration to impose martial law on Atlas, Team RWBY calls for help from their allies. Yes, he joins the fight, but unlike everyone else, he attempts to talk things out during the fight, trying to convince Weiss mid battle. DISCUSSION. (paraphrased). Her being angered and hyperfocused on Ruby is similarly bad to when Yang did the same to Elm. So just before the fight Ruby knew what to say to get under Harriet skin to have her separate from the rest of team. I will flat out say it. Here's chapter 112. 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